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George Orwell's ID

From the Home Office ID cards unit: "...we have never said that the Identity Cards Scheme is intended to be the sole solution to identity fraud, illegal immigration and working, or terrorism. The scheme is therefore not being designed to be the primary method of combating these problems." No2ID responds: "So what is the purpose of ID cards? If they are not the "primary method", then the £5.5bn would be better invested in a visible police presence, the security services and immigration officers to protect borders and locate illegal employers and their workers"

To learn more about the flaws in ID card systems, you can read a briefing [PDF] from Liberty (the UK civil liberties and human rights organisation), the No2ID FAQ, and a briefing [PDF] from Justice (an independent all-party law reform and human rights organisation of legal professionals, academic and volunteers). No2ID are also running a petition.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com
The official cost is now up to 5.5 Billion from 3.1 Billion before the election then? I see that its doing the usual skyward soar of government IT projects...

Date: 2005-05-17 07:30 am (UTC)
timill: (Default)
From: [personal profile] timill
Scope creep, I expect, plus pork-barrelling.

Much better to invest the money in improving the PNC...

Date: 2005-05-17 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com
And it seems that now is a good time to speak out on this.

Date: 2005-05-17 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com
Police National Computer... [livejournal.com profile] timill worked for it at one point, and might still do, IIRC...

Date: 2005-05-17 09:19 am (UTC)
timill: (Default)
From: [personal profile] timill
Still do...

Date: 2005-05-17 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com
Hmmm, I wonder if I can use the Public Whip to see how my MP voted on this issue.

Date: 2005-05-17 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carandol.livejournal.com
You could probably find out here: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

Date: 2005-05-17 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharikkamur.livejournal.com
I wonder if I, as an ex-pat, will have to have one?

Date: 2005-05-17 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com
Depends for how long you're an ex-pat?

I think it's designed for all UK residents, but I can see why they might want to extend it to ex-pat nationals too.

Bleugh.

Date: 2005-05-17 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharikkamur.livejournal.com
It wouldn't surprise me. Consider the following scenario: I go back to the UK for an SCA event. There's a security alert at the railway station, where I'm wandering around carrying a bag full of rapiers. I have a UK passport but not an ID card. Now, as the passport doesn't have all the biometric stuff they want for the ID card, it's immediately a 'less solid' form of identification. I can imagine having a very unpleasant time with that.

Interestingly, I don't have to register with the British Embassy here in Iceland. So even if the government had the embassies handle ID cards for ex-pats it would be very easy to slip through the net.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] profundo-rosso.livejournal.com
Any serious criminal or terrorist will have impecable fake ID and will ensure they carry it. It's the rest of us who'll be buggered around by it.

Date: 2005-05-17 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com
Hear, hear.

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